Transcript of the chat session on Education Indicators in Canada: An International Perspective, 2015, which occurred on Thursday, March 31, 2016 from 1:30 p.m. to 2:30 p.m. EST

Note: This was a bilingual chat session, which means that the participants were able to submit their questions in English or French. Statistics Canada respects the Official Languages Act and is committed to ensuring that information products of equal quality are available in both English and French. For that reason, all the questions and answers have been translated in the other official language.

 Moderator at 13:30:06
Welcome everyone! This is a bilingual chat session, which means that you can submit your questions in English or French. Our experts will respond in a timely manner and in the official language in which the question was asked.

 bettybayer at 13:33:54
Does the report include information on private education in Canada, or only on public education?

 Michael Martin at 13:38:26
The report is primarily on public education. Within the financial statistics of the report, there is some information on private sources of funds that contribute to public education, such as tuition fees.

 jcherubin at 13:33:02
In the most recent release on the Education Indicators in Canada: An International Perspective 2015, it specifies that the percentage of Canadians with a university degree (bachelor's, master's, doctorate or equivalent degree) is 28%. Were college institutions that offer degrees included in this calculation?

 Klarka Zeman at 13:41:14
Hello, thank you for your question. The source of these data is the Labour Force Survey. Depending on how the respondent interpreted the question, it is very likely that someone who earned a bachelor's degree from a college would be included in the 28%. I cannot tell you this for certain, but in theory, such a person should be included.

 patrick@casa.ca at 13:36:52
With regards to the educational attainment, what information is available for students who have completed more than one kind of degree or certificate - that is, a university degree and vocational school? Especially for those cases such as students who attend university first, and then college.

 Michael Martin at 13:44:13
Can you clarify what type of information you are seeking?

 mackinno at 13:37:25
Do you have recent data regarding the number of students with disabilities who have completed their university studies and the average amount of student loans they might accumulate? Also, do you have data on the number of graduates with disabilities who are employed full time? Equally interesting would be the number employed full-time, with medical benefits.

 Michael Martin at 13:45:07
This report does not provide the breakdown by the number of graduates with disabilities who are employed full time, or the number of graduates employed full time who have medical benefits.

 rriel at 13:38:42
Good afternoon. Would it be possible to obtain a PDF of the full report as it is not available on the Statistics Canada website?

 Moderator at 13:45:47
Thank you for your question. We will follow up with you by email in the following business days.

 Jo-Anne Wong at 13:36:19
Total expenditure by student on university education is second highest next to Luxemburg. Are there any other reasons for this besides compensation and capital expenditures for this? What does this say about Canadian universities?

 Michael Martin at 13:47:14
Within Canada, Research and Development expenditures are also a large component of spending, and these differ by countries. Unfortunately I am unable to comment specifically on what it may say about Canadian universities.

 Jo-Anne Wong at 13:36:52
42% of the money invested in education by Government, business and individuals is spend on post-secondary education. This is 12% more than the average for OECD countries. Can you elaborate on the contributing factors?

 Michael Martin at 13:52:59
As noted in the report, Canada has a large post-secondary education sector compared with most OECD countries because of its large college component. These factors contribute to Canada's higher spending on postsecondary education.

 john.young@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca at 13:38:32
Does the report shed light on how the education system in Canada supports innovation and productivity growth? Also, is there information on the extent of co-operative education and work-integrated learning in Canada?

 Klarka Zeman at 13:53:53
Thank you for the question. Those topics were not part of this report.

 ennio.palombizio at 13:37:00
Is there the possibility of getting detailed information on whether or not a person ended up in an occupation/industry related to their field of study? (Whether it be immediately after completing their studies, or in terms of their most recent job) It is possible that some people may be misclassified as their may report their expected occupation based on field of study, rather than their current occupation (particularly where a job title is generic)

 Klarka Zeman at 13:54:15
Thank you for your question. This topic was not covered in this report.

 patrick@casa.ca at 13:45:37
Specifically, how many students have more than one kind of qualification at the tertiary level? How many have both a bachelor's degree and a college certificate, for instance?

 Michael Martin at 13:57:23
Unfortunately, this report covers only the highest levels of attainment, not multiple qualifications per student.

 moule at 13:44:20
Where can I find out more about the difference between tertiary and non-tertiary?

 Michael Martin at 14:02:43
Tertiary education includes International Standard Classification of Education (ISCED) levels 5, 6,7 and 8. These are described in the Notes to Readers section of the report. For further information on tertiary education, you can refer to Pages 23 to 26 of the OECD's Education at a Glance 2015. I would also refer you to the UNESCO's ISCED classification available on the UNESCO website.

 Steeve Bolduc at 13:34:32
Hello. This question concerns Table A.2.1. I understand the first column shows the likelihood of graduating from secondary school. How, then, do we interpret the last column, regarding people aged 25 years or under?
Secondly, in the last column, how do you explain the difference between the 85% in Quebec and the 100% in other provinces or 97% in Ontario?
Thank you very much.

 Klarka Zeman at 14:03:30
Thank you for your question.
The last column refers to the percentage of people who earned their diploma before the age of 25. Quebec has a highly developed secondary school system for adults, so there is a larger proportion of people in Quebec who earn their diploma at the age of 25 or older.

 LEEACOPP at 13:56:38
Could future reports include expenditures made by employers to assist employees with their educational pursuits?

 Michael Martin at 14:04:55
Thank you very much for your question. Currently, this is outside of the scope of our data collection.

 ennio.palombizio at 13:47:18
With regards to the PDF document, if available could this be provided to anyone who requests it?

 Moderator at 14:06:16
Yes, it will be available in a few weeks. When it does, we will get back to you.

 Jo-Anne Wong at 13:46:35
I would also like a PDF of the full report, thank you!

 Moderator at 14:09:30
Yes, it will be available in a few weeks. When it does, we will get back to you.

 bettybayer at 13:50:15
I, too, would be interested in a pdf of the report.

 Moderator at 14:10:45
Yes, it will be available in a few weeks. When it does, we will get back to you.

 LEEACOPP at 13:50:06
Could a PDF copy be forwarded to all participants on made accessible online?

 Moderator at 14:12:29
The PDF will be available in a few weeks. When it does, we will get back to you.

 moule at 13:51:23
Could I also get a copy of the PDF? Thanks

 Moderator at 14:14:18
Yes, it will be available in a few weeks. When it does, we will get back to you.

 Steeve Bolduc at 13:37:28
To follow up on my earlier question, these differences give the impression that the adults who graduate from secondary school are included for Quebec but excluded for the other provinces

 Klarka Zeman at 14:16:28
Hello, and thank you again for your question. Indeed, the figure for Quebec includes all the adults who earned their secondary school diploma in the public system. In a few other provinces, there are other ways for adults to get this education, such as through institutions like colleges or private institutions, which are not included in this calculation.

 lassad.damak@mess.gouv.qc.ca at 13:34:53
Hello, are the historical data on enrollment and graduates by level (secondary, college, university) in Canada (and in Quebec) comparable with U.S. data? If so, where can one find time series (last 15 or 20 years)? Sources? Tables? Thank you! lassad.damak@mess.gouv.qc.ca

 Klarka Zeman at 14:18:03
Hello, and thank you for your question. I cannot give you information on U.S. data, but to see time series for Canada, you can consult the data in the Postsecondary Student Information System on CANSIM. Don't hesitate to contact us at STATCAN.infostats-infostats.STATCAN@canada.ca.

 LEEACOPP at 13:55:02
Is information offered on trends for people returning to school to further their education and certifications after they have entered the workforce. i.e. Does the report distinguish full time students, mature students and part-time students? It would be interesting to know what are the most popular educational pursuits after people have entered the workforce. And the return on their educational investments.

 Michael Martin at 14:21:13
That is an interesting question. However, we currently don't have the longitudinal data that would support that analysis.

 patrick@casa.ca at 14:01:50
In terms of employment, is there any distinction made between full-time and part-time employment when calculating NEET rates, or other categories of job? Would that data be available somewhere?

 Michael Martin at 14:22:33
Thank you very much for your question. We do not distinguish between full-time and part-time employment when calculating NEET rates. Employment is defined as those who, during the survey reference week, worked for pay (employees) or profit (self-employed and unpaid family workers) for at least one hour, or had a job but were temporarily absent from work (due to injury, illness, holiday, strike or lock-out, educational or training leave, maternity or parental leave, etc.). Further information may be available from the Labour Force Survey; if you do not find the information you are looking for, please contact STATCAN.infostats-infostats.STATCAN@canada.ca.

 rdarville at 14:05:39
I'd like to be on the list re pdf copy - thanks.

 Moderator at 14:25:34
Certainly. It will be available in a few weeks. When it does, we will get back to you.

 MURRAYPSCHARF at 13:52:05
I also.

 Moderator at 14:24:05
The PDF will be available in a few weeks. When it does, we will get back to you.

 laurie beatt at 13:55:42
I would also like a pdf of the full report. Thank you!

 Moderator at 14:30:38
Yes, it will be available in a few weeks. When it does, we will get back to you.

 ehazell at 14:09:25
I would also like a copy of the PDF report when available

 Moderator at 14:31:35
Yes, it will be available in a few weeks. When it does, we will get back to you.

 Vnath at 14:25:04
I would like a copy of the PDF as well please.

 Moderator at 14:32:10
Yes, it will be available in a few weeks. When it does, we will get back to you.

 rriel at 14:23:19
1. Where can we see the raw data that was used in the spending per pupil tables and for expenditures as a share of GDP? 2. Is there more detailed information on teachers salaries in Table D.2.1, including the salary categories used (footnote 5 refers to Saskatchewan only), the step on the grid that each figure is based on, and the effective dates of each collective agreement used? Do the figures for Manitoba and Alberta include every local agreement?

 Michael Martin at 14:33:49
We are unable to provide you with the raw data. However, I will follow up with you to determine how we can meet your needs.

 moule at 13:45:48
If I earn a certificate from a university, how would that be classified? How would an associate degree be classified?

 Klarka Zeman at 14:35:34
Thank you for the question. A certificate and an associate degree would both fall under the category of "college diploma" (ISCED 5), even if it is earned at a university. They do not meet the definition for a bachelor's degree (ISCED 6).

 LEEACOPP at 14:17:17
Do employment rates improve for graduates with a bachelor's or equivalent if they do post-graduate studies at the college level?

 Michael Martin at 14:36:20
Thank you very much for your question. Information at this level of detail is outside of the scope of our report.

 prpd at 14:12:45
What do you define as being covered in Educational Core Services?

 Michael Martin at 14:38:01
Educational core services include all spending on education, except for capital, research and development, and ancilliary services (such as transport, meals and housing provided by institutions).

 LEEACOPP at 14:25:47
Could this information be drilled down further to include fields of study at the tertiary level for both domestic and internationals students? Following this vein of inquiry, it would be interesting to also know if five years after graduation, graduates are working in their field of study (of their highest level of education).

 Michael Martin at 14:40:13
Hello and thank you for your question. Information on fields of study at the tertiary level for both domestic and international students can be obtained from the Postsecondary Student Information System. Information about graduates working in their field of study can be found in the National Graduates Survey. The two above hyperlinks will lead you to information about these two surveys. To obtain the data, please contact STATCAN.infostats-infostats.STATCAN@canada.ca.

 gdebroucker at 13:43:58
Hello! Do the results for indicator E1 on topics related to a recent evaluation of literacy and numeracy skills in the adult population come from the OECD's PIAAC survey? Does StatCan use other indicators to measure/estimate literacy levels (e.g., health literacy / littéracie en santé) in Canada? Thank you!

 Klarka Zeman at 14:42:18
Hello, and thank you for your question. Yes, our literacy and numeracy figures come from the OECD's PIAAC survey. However, PIAAC does not measure health literacy. Note that in last year's report, we provided information on the relationship between health and literacy.

 Steeve Bolduc at 14:30:13
Thank you very much for your responses. The table therefore compares different data. People who aren't aware of these aspects might have difficulty understanding these data, which could bias their use of this information. In the section on secondary school graduation rates, in the fourth paragraph, only Manitoba and Saskatchewan are mentioned: “Manitoba graduates from Adult Learning Centres in the province are not included in the graduation rate calculation. As well, data on graduations in Saskatchewan for 2011/2012 do not include General Education Development (GED) credentials.” Could you explain this more clearly?

 Klarka Zeman at 14:44:11
Hello, and thank you for your comment. Yes, of course, we want to do anything we can to help data users correctly interpret our data. The notes for this indicator could be reviewed.

 prpd at 14:25:44
Have you found any correlation between expenditure per pupil and education levels? Have any province seen drastic changes in their expenditures per pupil?

 Michael Martin at 14:47:43
This study only tracks expenditures per pupil at either the elementary-secondary, or the post-secondary levels. We don't differentiate between the individual levels.
This study only looks at the current year. If you are interested in making comparisons, please refer to last year's report, or make an inquiry at STATCAN.infostats-infostats.STATCAN@canada.ca.

 Evan2005 at 13:49:15
Do you have information on immigrants and members of designated groups? And can you tell me how they compare with other members of the population? Is it true that there are more and more visible minorities in certain fields of study, such as medicine and higher education?

 Moderator at 14:51:54
Hello, and thank you for your question. This report does not contain information on immigrants and members of designated groups, but STATCAN.infostats-infostats.STATCAN@canada.ca can provide you with data on these groups.

 Moderator at 14:53:53
The chat session is now over. Thank you for your questions and comments! If our experts did not have a chance to respond to your question, we will follow-up with you by email in the next few business days. The full transcript of this chat session will be made available on our website shortly. Have a great day!

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