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Michael Martin at 13:36:08
In general the report excludes professional development and pure interest education. However, if you refer to Table E.1.5.1, participation in formal and non-formal education collected by the Programme for the International Assessment of Adult Competencies is reported.
Klarka Zeman at 13:37:48
This particular report does not contain information on enrolment in skilled trades programs; however, our next education indicators release available in March 2015 would provide information on this topic. That release will contain indicators based on the Registered Apprenticeship Information System. For the most recent data out of that survey, please consult the Registered apprenticeship training programs, 2012.
Michael Martin at 13:38:07
That is a very good question. This information is currently not in scope; however, as this sector develops it is something we will want to look at more closely.
Michael Martin at 13:45:47
The findings of the report show that among older age groups the attainment levels are lower than among the younger age groups. See table A.1.4. Younger generations of Canadians are generally better educated than older generations.
Klarka Zeman at 13:47:03
Advanced research programs include:
"Programmes that lead directly to the award of an advanced research qualification, e.g., Ph.D. The theoretical duration of these programmes is 3 years, full-time, in most countries (for a cumulative total of at least 7 years full-time equivalent at the tertiary level), although the actual enrolment time is typically longer. Programmes are devoted to advanced study and original research."
For more information regarding what is included in the different ISCED levels, please refer to our Notes to readers.
This level generally refers to doctorates.
Klarka Zeman at 13:49:05
In recent years we see that the percentage of the population aged 25-64 who have postsecondary non-tertiary education is very stable - it was consistently 12% in 2008, 2010 and 2012.
This data is not available for some OECD countries; however, Canada's percentage of the population aged 25-64 who have postsecondary non-tertiary education as their highest level of educational attainment is one of the highest.
Michael Martin at 13:54:12
Herb, using the OECD methodologies every effort is made to standardize the data across countries. However we do recognize that because of the differences in education systems at all levels - not just finances - these data can help to raise interesting questions and show trends, but by themselves cannot provide explanations. Additional research will always be required. The aim of the report is to stimulate thinking and promote debate.
Klarka Zeman at 13:54:22
We do not publish the data in this form; however, this type of proportion could be determined through a custom extraction of data at Statistics Canada. To request this type of data, you could contact STATCAN.infostats-infostats.STATCAN@canada.ca.
Michael Martin at 13:57:40
Expenditures at the institutional level are available, but not broken down by faculty. These data are organized by financial function and expenditure types, such as capital and operating expenditures.
Klarka Zeman at 13:58:10
Did my other response answer this question? Yes, it would be possible to determine a postsecondary education attainment rate without the completion of CEGEP but it is not something that Statistics Canada currently publishes.
Klarka Zeman at 14:07:16
The question I responded to specifically referred to enrolment in the trades, which is not in this report.
Michael Martin at 14:16:17
I appreciate your concern with respect to the comparability of these data. In the report we do advise caution when making comparisons due to interpretational differences and differences in the application of the data guidellines by countries reporting to the OECD (see Limitations section at the beginning of the report). However, the approach taken by the OECD is an approach that is agreed upon by participating countries.
Klarka Zeman at 14:20:19
Data from the National Graduates Survey look at the labour market outcomes of graduates three years after graduation. This does not precisely answer your question, but can tell you something about how well graduates are doing in the years after they have finished their postsecondary studies.
The Cumulative Earnings of Postsecondary Graduates Over 20 Years: Results by Field of Study also may be of interest to you as it contains information about the earnings of postsecondary graduates.
Michael Martin at 14:22:45
Data on post secondary education is not tracked by faculty; rather, it is tracked by field of study as classified by the Classification of Instructional Programs (CIP).
Klarka Zeman at 14:27:22
Thank you for your comments.
Michael Martin at 14:31:19
Unfortunately, we are not able to project these data; however, more detailed data on country of origin are available (Table C.1.2 of the report).
Klarka Zeman at 14:34:25
Statistics Canada does not publish a table as such, but the National Graduates Survey does provide data that can answer these questions. For more information, you can contact Statistics Canada at STATCAN.infostats-infostats.STATCAN@canada.ca.
Klarka Zeman at 14:35:20
Statistics Canada publishes data on the number of university and college graduates by province every year: Postsecondary graduates by institution type, province and sex (Both sexes). Unfortunately, we do not have a longitudinal database for postsecondary students; therefore, Statistics Canada does not publish information on the drop-out or break-off rates at the college or university level.